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Wife tells it like it is!!

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Hi HiRSmile

 

Your leap lands you square and safe. Thank you. I guess we all go home eventually and though not actually home::: I will be close again. I think anyplace is a better place when some make you feel welcome and we do our best to add a little joy and wisdom to where we are. In understanding we're all basically words on a screen, one thing does make a difference, our own little nuances that define us to one another even if without a face. I should say to you also, I have enjoyed your link messages and honestly, if I had a differing opinion at times:::you helped provide a new perspective.

 

So HiR, I'll be taking some of this better place with me. Good wishes.

 

Lucy.

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I'll look forward to it, Lucybird. If you click on my ID it will tell you how long my username has been in use here. I'm BB now and always have been. Never saw the need to have other IDs like some others here. I'm just plain and simply... BB.

 

Good luck!


 

Thanks BBSmile

At first we'll need it but lots of family are close there too. I plan to get linked up again, but it will be a while.

Good wishes.

Lucy.

 

Lucy

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Here's a good summary on nobama's situation....

 

BS

I think you should clear this up a bit.

 

The Constitution contains the term "natural born" for a US president. This term was used to prevent anyone with the possibility of having a foreign allegiance from becoming commander-in-chief of US forces, for obvious reasons. A person with dual citizenship owes allegiance to both the US and the foreign government. They are required to obey the laws of both countries, which of course for a sitting US President would be disastrous to the US nation.

The term "natural born" is used to mean a singular allegiance to one and only one nation. 

 

Is this your own defination or where does it come from? 

(Note that it is unique that the US president is also the commander-in-chief, which entrusts the office of president with great power, so a concern of allegiance was on the minds of the framers of the Constitution.)

Are you sure it is unique?   I would expect many other nations to have similar arrangements.   Have you checked them all?   How do you know what was inthe minds of the framers?   Is this another of your own definitions?


All NATURALIZED citizens have to take an oath of ALLEGIANCE, to confirm they only have allegiance to the US and no other country. But this is not enough to fully repudiate possible allegiances to other countries.

So "allegiance" is the key here -- at the time of the writing of the US Constitution, "natural born" was a term carefully chosen to define that allegiance - it means having a singular allegiance that derives from one's having been born of the soil of the nation - in this case, the US nation. This results in a kind of "super-allegiance".
That is what the framers meant, and Constitutional lawyers have always recognized this to be the meaning.

 

See above.

So according to the Constitution, which explicitly and unambiguously uses with the term "natural born" when referring to qualifications for someone to be the US president, no, a US president cannot have dual citizenship. They must have that singular allegiance that can only be derived from having been born of US soil - "born here".

 

Starting to follow now? This post always was about the US President.

 

I'm not following?

 

Is this intended to correct or weasel out of your assertion that U. S. citizens can't have dual citizenship?   Is it about noncitizens in our military?   Or is it about the phony business of where Obama was born and his mother's citizenship at the time?   Or all of the above?

 

 

 

If you click on my ID it will tell you how long my username has been in use here. I'm BB now and always have been. Never saw the need to have other IDs like some others here. I'm just plain and simply... BB.

 


See when I click upon other names the longevity is not near that of Bigbrothers. So if the deception with other user names exist, longevity alone would not prove innocents, but just that name being the first. Or just a case of a person with to much to say. (humor)Wink

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