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Capitalism vs socialism

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Under Capitalism, a farmer making a living and feeding his family sees a field across the road from him for sale and he says to himself, "If I buy that field and farm it also, I can make more money and provide better for my family, my kids education etc.

Under Socialism, a farmer getting by on what the government allows him to keep, sees a field across the road and realizes that, if he were to buy that field (if in fact he could be allowed by the socialist government to buy it), and farmed the extra acreage, he would not get anything more to help his family as the extra would be taken by the government and handed to those "less fortunate". He therefore decides not to buy the field and realizes that if he works his land less, the socialists will still give him the same amount to live on so he becomes a slacker and lets the place go and it produces less for "the socialist network" but, the farmer doesn't care, he is still getting the same check so, why worry.

This is why a socialist government cannot and will not work on any long term basis and is exactly why the USA has been headed for problems ever since it started all the socialist programs, like social security, Medicare, unemployment compensation, SSI disability, etc. The more of these weighty programs you add onto the rolls the more overburdened the underpinnings become, and the sooner the collapse. Now the US Govt. is wanting to add a national health care system to the pile.

There is no way to pay for social security or Medicare down the road but, let's add more debt and socialist spending and see how soon we can bring the country down.

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Under Capitalism, a farmer making a living and feeding his family sees a field across the road from him for sale and he says to himself, "If I buy that field and farm it also, I can make more money and provide better for my family, my kids education etc.

Under Socialism, a farmer getting by on what the government allows him to keep, sees a field across the road and realizes that, if he were to buy that field (if in fact he could be allowed by the socialist government to buy it), and farmed the extra acreage, he would not get anything more to help his family as the extra would be taken by the government and handed to those "less fortunate". He therefore decides not to buy the field and realizes that if he works his land less, the socialists will still give him the same amount to live on so he becomes a slacker and lets the place go and it produces less for "the socialist network" but, the farmer doesn't care, he is still getting the same check so, why worry.

This is why a socialist government cannot and will not work on any long term basis and is exactly why the USA has been headed for problems ever since it started all the socialist programs, like social security, Medicare, unemployment compensation, SSI disability, etc. The more of these weighty programs you add onto the rolls the more overburdened the underpinnings become, and the sooner the collapse. Now the US Govt. is wanting to add a national health care system to the pile.

There is no way to pay for social security or Medicare down the road but, let's add more debt and socialist spending and see how soon we can bring the country down.

I worked for a few socialist for 31 years. I paid Union dues and they did not but when we negotiated a raise they receivedone also, so in your way of thinking they are socialist.

If you want to give up your social security and medicare simply send the social security administration a letter stating that you no longer want to receive those programs and they will stop all benefits to you. Then you can sell pencils on the street corner for food to eat.

Put the bottle down and take a nap, when you wake up your mind will be a lot clearer.

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I worked at the Farmall works in Rock Island awhile. They made me join the union. I would have anyway but resented their "do it or else" attitude. One night a number of nights after I started, my boss come over and told me I wasen't making my quota on piecework. If I didn't speed up, I was out of there.

I ran a broach machine. So, I sped up. No sweat. Some nights later the union steward came over and was quite hostile because I was kicking out too many parts and they would set the piecework rate lower so no one could make money, blah, blah, blah.

I was quite happy with the hourly pay rate, screw the piecework. Farmall isn't there no more. imagine that.

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I worked at the Farmall works in Rock Island awhile. They made me join the union. I would have anyway but resented their "do it or else" attitude. One night a number of nights after I started, my boss come over and told me I wasen't making my quota on piecework. If I didn't speed up, I was out of there.

I ran a broach machine. So, I sped up. No sweat. Some nights later the union steward came over and was quite hostile because I was kicking out too many parts and they would set the piecework rate lower so no one could make money, blah, blah, blah.

I was quite happy with the hourly pay rate, screw the piecework. Farmall isn't there no more. imagine that.

Being a Union member at Farmall was not a choice because the majority of the workers voted for it and Illinois is not a right to work state. ( thank God) But you did have a choice and that was not to work there, no Socialist there.

What the steward was trying to tell you was that if you continued your ways the company would change the tooling and cut the rate on the job. Then you had to run the amount of pieces you were running before or be terminated, not real hard to figure out.

You are right Farmall is no longer there and most of International Harvester is gone thanks to a CEO named Archie McCardel. It was called greed and poor management.

The same International union is representing the workers at Deere a block away and they continue to show a profit each year and have for many years.

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