Muscatine

JOS:  Please, please try to remember what was said and please, please, concentrate on following the thread of conversation.   What I specifically was referring to with the "you think it needs more wacking around" statement was the relative importance of the Dems health care initiative among all the other things of importance.    I thought that was settled as you didn't respond to my last post about that subject.   According to the latest Rasmussen reports about "what the people are tellling us", is the general statement that only 20% feel changing the health care system is the most important.   And most of those polled feel the real problem is cost not lack of insurance or health care.   

What I'm giving up is listening to any spin promoting the Dems plan for grabbing more centralized power.   It's really becoming a dead horse with the general public anyway.   Here's what I actually posted about "wacking something around", for your reference:

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JOS:   Poor boy....No, I said YOU were fixated on one  item from my original post.   That item was a statement about health care not being near the top in priority with more and more people.   If you think it needs more wacking around, let's go at it.   

When you have just a few items to prioritize, of course you can say that any are "near the top".   I should have said that health care is not the top priority, I guess, but the difference is pretty meaningless when the fall out for the real misleaders is considered.   It wasn't I who said he didn't want to waste any crisis!   And it's not a stretch to then take it for granted that any crisis can be manufactured to promulgate an agenda.  "

 

You chose to not answer any of those specific points, so I assumed you recognized the error of your ways!

To all of those concerned.....might I suggest a listen to the Dennis Miller show.  Give it a few days.....intelligent, insightful, witty and fun.  Currently heard on 1420 am  radio in the afternoon. 

Don't worry about me, hiroad. I read just fine.

You made a mea culpa as to your wording but beyond that I saw no claims to debate, just conservative babble about power grabs.

I did respond, though, with "Whack away, hiroad. I have yet to hear a good reason why the richest nation on earth should leave millions of people uninsured." You didn't appear willing to give me any reasons other than the same old tired talking points about liberals thinking government  is great at spending money so I assumed you were passing on whacking it around. If what you really meant was "the relative importance of the Dems health care initiative among all the other things of importance," I would think that you would have responded with that to my invitation to "whack away."

I realize that you've got some sort of fetish with Rasmussen, but there are a number of other reputable pollsters asking much more pointed questions with far more favorable results in favor of health care reform. However, if, as you've stated before, you are unwilling to consider another pollster's results then debating you is pointless. I'd get just as far debating the front door of my house. 

If you would pay any attention at all to the actual health care debate you would know that the point of health care reform is to control the cost. Hmmmm... just what "most of those people polled feel the real problem is." But then you'd have to listen to the Dems to get that because the only thing you're going to hear from the Republicans is talking points, obstruction, and empty BS.

The main initiator and driver behind the increase in costs has proven to be law suits and unreasonable monetary judgements.  That's what really needs to be fixed, if anything is "fixed".  Everyone knows that tort reform is the answer, but the Dems will not go against their shiester lawer buddies.  They won't even talk about the real problem.  By the way, the Dems are always harping about those poor unininsured, and cost only as an afterthought. 
Anyone who is paying attention realizes this.   Anyway, what has been proposed, so far, will only increase cost, not reduce it.

And, you have a fixation with the word "fixation"!   I only trust Rasmussen as they are the only pollsters, besides PEW, that have been proven accurate time and again.   The left leaning pollsters, like TIME and Gallop cannot be relied on and are just biased spin.  If you want to call that a fixation, go ahead.   We'll consider the source.