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Ridiculous trade policies during the Bush years the cause of our economic "woes"? (plus energy?):

Well, here's another take on that (just the trade policy issue for now):

 

"What Is Barack Obama's Position on Free Trade?:

Overall, Obama opposes many current trade agreements, which he says are bad for the economy because they provide perks for businesses but don't protect workers. (Source: IHT, Clinton and Obama address economic fears, February 18, 2008)

Obama Has Three Main Proposals:

  1. Amend NAFTA - He would re-open NAFTA to beef up protection for labor and the environment.
  2. Fight for Fair Trade - He opposes pending Free Trade Agreements (FTA's) with Colombia because it allows violence against labor leaders and South Korea because it restricts U.S. auto imports. He also wants to pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce current agreements and stop unfair subsidies.
  3. Improve Transition Assistance - He supports Federal funding for retraining displace U.S. workers.
(Source: Reuters, Obama and McCain offer voters a choice on trade, June 2, 2008; BarackObama.com)

How Would Obama's Free Trade Position Impact the Economy?:

Putting more job protection for U.S. workers in NAFTA and other FTA's may not help American workers because it doesn't get at the source. Job outsourcing is a result of declining U.S. competitiveness, which is itself a result of decades of the U.S. not investing in education. This is particularly true for high tech, engineering, and science. (See The U.S. Is Losing Its Competitive Edge)

 

Opposing FTA's for two of America's closest allies, Colombia and South Korea, may damage our relationship with them while hurting the U.S. economy. In fact, Colombia's homicide rate against union members, and the public as a whole, has dropped 40% since 2002 thanks to a government protection program. (Source: USTR, Colombia Free Trade Agreement)

Rejection of the South Korean FTA could cause newly-elected South Korean President Lee Myung-bak to further lose support among a population who are already upset that he agreed to allow U.S. beef to be imported as part of the agreement. South Koreans remember the cases of mad cow disease found in U.S. beef four years ago.

The agreement actually levels the playing field for the auto industry. Current South Korean tariffs of 8% would be removed, as would current U.S. tariffs, which are lower at 3.5%. (Source: Bilaterals.org, Obama urges Bush to back off, May 23, 2008)

FTA's open new markets for businesses by removing trade barriers. For example, NAFTA increased trade from $297 billion to $810 billion. The Peterson Institute for International Economics estimates that ending all trade barriers would increase U.S. income by $500 billion. (See Pros and Cons of Free Trade Agreements)

Opening NAFTA to renegotiation would allow Mexico to address it complaints, including immigration reform, U.S. farm subsidies and an unfulfilled NAFTA promise to allow Mexican commercial trucks further into the U.S.. (Source: Reuters, Obama and McCain offer voters a choice on trade, June 2, 2008)

Free trade creates more jobs than it outsources. For example, the formation of the European Union free trade area created 300,000–900,000 net new jobs. In the U.S, 1.3 million export-related jobs were created between 1994 and 1998. (Source: World Trade Organization,Benefits of Free Trade)

Increasing U.S. protectionism will further slow economic growth and cause more layoffs, not less. If the U.S. regresses and closes its borders, other countries will do the same. This could cause layoffs among the 12 million U.S. workers who owe their jobs to exports.

What Free Trade Issues Is Obama Missing?:

One of the key obstacles to the Doha round of the World Trade Organization agreement was U.S. agricultural subsidies. Developing countries are afraid of low-cost, subsidized U.S. farm products flooding their markets, essentially putting family farmers out of business. Until the U.S. significantly reduces these subsidies, further progress on this multi-lateral trade agreement is effectively dead in its tracks.

 

Contrary to popular opinion, agricultural subsidies no longer go to U.S. family farms. Instead, tax programs that were designed to help Depression-era families keep their farms are now effectively subsidizing huge corporations who have, in turn, put these family farms out of business. (Source: USA Today, Bill includes billions in farm subsidies, May 15, 2008; Gourmet, Betting the Farm, April 2008)

In fact, Obama's renewed pressure on the WTO to enforce other countries' subsidies could then bring into question the subject of U.S. agricultural subsidies - still a sore point in the international trade community. The failure of the Doha round has led to a fresh wave of bilateral trade agreements between China, the Middle East, Latin America and Africa. Further U.S. protectionism at this time will only increase this activity, thus pushing the U.S. economy further out of the trade loop, and further into economic decline."

 

Now whether or not we have energy "woes" and, if we do, how they may or may not contribute to economic "woes", I'll cover next time.

 

Weird aint it?

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It's a new day on the horizon when I get to see the young leader's potential understanding of what I at least, see as the worst legislation passed in 70 plus years. I'll keep an open mind and say for now that...yes it's weird and sad should he not press congress to dump them. Even this congress can still wise up. I'm not an economist, but our jobs went somewhere other than here at home. I read in more than one place that corporations reaping these tax and wage free rewards have grown by the thousands of percentages in less than a decade. All the while we lose more and more jobs. I'm no professional numbers cruncher, but you'd have to be a toddler not to understand how this happened when the rest of us are broke and the CEOs are mind-blowing-ly richer by the hour. It will definitely stir the money waters of this greed to repeal their golden calves, but so what. It's what is wrong with our economy.

Bedtime...GNight.

Lucy

 

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Ah yes, to rehash the 2000 elections and blame all on false counting, now there is some fun.  Kind of like when the Mister used to bring in the chickens for counting, and the count would get messed up, so we'd start counting again.  But I digress, as the counting isn't really what matters after all, so much as the having fun doing it. Isn't it?  The mere fact that Mr. Bush won twice should be enough to raise our hackles, but then again, maybe I like him, as I find it easier to ride the fence than to actually settle on one side and take an actual stand.  That those not smart enough to fill out a ballot were left out is a crime indeed, but then again, maybe not.  Kind of like when the pancakes wouldn't mix up right since, as you no doubt know, up in Minnesota the batter doesn't sometimes flounce as well as it could, but then again, maybe it could if we were but a bit more compassionate as to the needs of the batter.  So I wouldn't have voted for that Bush fellow, or that Mr. Kerry, as the wife says, "because neither one is worth a poop".  She's not well these days....working way too hard.  And energy...did I mention energy?  Since we started burning the squirrels in the corn stove, our bills have gone down 17 cents a month, and the Smart Car will soon be pulled out of the garage, as soon as the snow melts.  Darned thing is balky in the snow.  The wife says we should have gone Renault....the french can build a darned car.  But I digress.  And how about that Hurricane?  Bush might have been slow on the trigger on that one, but this earthquake business....we need to show compassion, but not send money.  Why back in the old country, we used to send money to the local ministry, so they could buy shoes for the poor homeless monks.  But the monks didn't wear shoes, so the shoes went to waste.  The squirrels ended up nesting in the shoes, and the wife used to say, "Look at those darned squirrles".

 

Funny, isn't it?


Daryl......hilarious.  Is it real, or merely a marvelous simulation?

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Hey Nigel.  It's as real as you want it to be.

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