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Ahem, haysus....that is not what I asked for. "Just once I'd like to have a liberal respond and explain how the ice age came and went on the earth without factories,..., etc., etc..."

 

Posting links to sites you like, that explain nothing I have asked for is not what I asked for. You are becoming mobay with your knee-jerk reactions and referenced links.

 

I want a liberal to explain the differences I cited regarding the science and current allegations about warming. how come the ice age came and went without pollution, as you liberals say is what is causing global warming. Anyone can post links, haysus. I want an intelligent liberal post; have been asking for that forever, and still cannot seem to get it.

 

So, thanks for proving my point. BTW, haysus...why did that scientist step down after an investigation revealed a string of emails regarding tampering with the temperature data to "support" global warming?

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Polluting pets: the devastating impact of man's best friend

 

 

PARIS (AFP) – Man's best friend could be one of the environment's worst enemies, according to a new study which says the carbon pawprint of a pet dog is more than double that of a gas-guzzling sports utility vehicle.

But the revelation in the book "Time to Eat the Dog: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living" by New Zealanders Robert and Brenda Vale has angered pet owners who feel they are being singled out as troublemakers.

The Vales, specialists in sustainable living at Victoria University of Wellington, analysed popular brands of pet food and calculated that a medium-sized dog eats around 164 kilos (360 pounds) of meat and 95 kilos of cereal a year.

Combine the land required to generate its food and a "medium" sized dog has an annual footprint of 0.84 hectares (2.07 acres) -- around twice the 0.41 hectares required by a 4x4 driving 10,000 kilometres (6,200 miles) a year, including energy to build the car.

To confirm the results, the New Scientist magazine asked John Barrett at the Stockholm Environment Institute in York, Britain, to calculate eco-pawprints based on his own data. The results were essentially the same.

"Owning a dog really is quite an extravagance, mainly because of the carbon footprint of meat," Barrett said.

Other animals aren't much better for the environment, the Vales say.

Cats have an eco-footprint of about 0.15 hectares, slightly less than driving a Volkswagen Golf for a year, while two hamsters equates to a plasma television and even the humble goldfish burns energy equivalent to two mobile telephones.

But Reha Huttin, president of France's 30 Million Friends animal rights foundation says the human impact of eliminating pets would be equally devastating.

"Pets are anti-depressants, they help us cope with stress, they are good for the elderly," Huttin told AFP.

"Everyone should work out their own environmental impact. I should be allowed to say that I walk instead of using my car and that I don't eat meat, so why shouldn't I be allowed to have a little cat to alleviate my loneliness?"

Sylvie Comont, proud owner of seven cats and two dogs -- the environmental equivalent of a small fleet of cars -- says defiantly, "Our animals give us so much that I don't feel like a polluter at all.

"I think the love we have for our animals and what they contribute to our lives outweighs the environmental considerations.

"I don't want a life without animals," she told AFP.

And pets' environmental impact is not limited to their carbon footprint, as cats and dogs devastate wildlife, spread disease and pollute waterways, the Vales say.

With a total 7.7 million cats in Britain, more than 188 million wild animals are hunted, killed and eaten by feline predators per year, or an average 25 birds, mammals and frogs per cat, according to figures in the New Scientist.

Likewise, dogs decrease biodiversity in areas they are walked, while their faeces cause high bacterial levels in rivers and streams, making the water unsafe to drink, starving waterways of oxygen and killing aquatic life.

And cat poo can be even more toxic than doggy doo -- owners who flush their litter down the toilet ultimately infect sea otters and other animals with toxoplasma gondii, which causes a killer brain disease.

But despite the apocalyptic visions of domesticated animals' environmental impact, solutions exist, including reducing pets' protein-rich meat intake.

"If pussy is scoffing 'Fancy Feast' -- or some other food made from choice cuts of meat -- then the relative impact is likely to be high," said Robert Vale.

"If, on the other hand, the cat is fed on fish heads and other leftovers from the fishmonger, the impact will be lower."

Other potential positive steps include avoiding walking your dog in wildlife-rich areas and keeping your cat indoors at night when it has a particular thirst for other, smaller animals' blood.

As with buying a car, humans are also encouraged to take the environmental impact of their future possession/companion into account.

But the best way of compensating for that paw or clawprint is to make sure your animal is dual purpose, the Vales urge. Get a hen, which offsets its impact by laying edible eggs, or a rabbit, prepared to make the ultimate environmental sacrifice by ending up on the dinner table.

"Rabbits are good, provided you eat them," said Robert Vale.

 

Wow, ive heard about cows and pigs creating a problem....but now dogs....after reading this i think i will get my kids an SUV instead of a dog

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"Mountain of evidence" for JOS......how about the pile of snow in my yard.

 

Or maybe stick your nose outside.

 

Or last winter. 

 

Or maybe this winter. 

 

Or maybe our cool last summer. 

 

Or that the average comsumption of beer is going up proportionally to the drop in temperatures.

 

It just goes on and on.

 

there have been plenty of links presented in this topic....u just want to argue.....and im NOT gonna argue with u anymore i have better things to do....NOTHING will change your mind....you have your beliefs and i have mine....its that simple......u accuse many of us of getting our information from 2 conservative sources.....when many of us get our info other places......


I get it.

I present you with links to published studies. I provide you with the answers to your questions. I offer to openly discuss. But you "knew what [your] opinion was on the subject." In other words "la la la la I'm not listening."

Yeah, I get it.

BTW - Although you say "there have been plenty of links presented in this topic," not one self-identifying conservative has provided a single link to anything despite there being four of them (gta1, hiroad, bigbrother, justcurious) posting in this 45+ response thread. All the links came from me and mobay. Unfortunately, I can't seem to figure out what the hell mobay self-identifies as. (j/k mobay)

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