Muscatine

LOL......... We would be that dude in Denver enforcing the rules and me doing my part by being respectful... And yes that has always been my intent.

I don't ever recall being wrong. If I'm ever wrong that dude in Denver would make the call.

Yes I have......... For eight very long years

Not what I said.  I said they are not beatable by invading countries or bombing any specific country.  How we do something matters.  Being reckless and illogical is not helpful.  Instead, I would point to how the British eventually dealt with their irish problem.  Quietly they worked out deals with moderates and quietly rounded up the worse Irish terrorist.  This took away the ability of the Irish to use propaganda against the British and effectively worked out a peaceful resolution.  It is not wrong to use our heads a bit.  Some people actually priase being smart. 

You have to take your hands from over your eyes and actually read.  When you use intel you know to be troubled, like Feith did with his inappropriate use of intel (he worked for Cheney who worked for the President), and present this doubted intel as if it were the gospel, well, any reasonable person would call that lying. 

I challenge you to find where I called him a liar, not that it would matter to the point.  A person can lie, and still have a valid point on something else.  But I can show you if you like where Powell has called the intel information given him crap, and that he harbors bad feelings with those he believes lied to him.

But again, not the point.  So, your strawman effort here again fails to mean anything.  But that is the nature of strawmen.  Strawmen are often used when the arguer can't really effectively dispute the point.  So I accept your concession. 

Ah-haaaa....I see now.  We're going to negotiate a victory.  Yes, that will work quite nicely with these civilized moderates who cut off heads and fly airplanes into buildings.  It's all about propaganda, after all.