Hey shackman, nobody is arguing that the system isnt flawed.....but most of us, dont believe the government option is gonna fix anything....my wife talked to friend who has friends in canada and the U.K.......and thier government run insurance is a nightmare...social security is broke, medicaid/medicare is broke......our government cant fix them...but yet swear that they can fix the insurance industry....well they CANT! they have a socialistic plan.....that wont work......this is similar to clintons "cradle to the grave" plan that failed back then........but i do have a question for you though....i read a couple of weeks ago that nobamas healthcare plan thats so important to pass right now ...wouldnt even take effect until after the next presidential election....so im curious if we need it RIGHT NOW...like the dems say....then why 4 more years til its implemented? very easy..the answer is quite simple....he wouldnt get re-elected if its implemented as soon as its passed......obama is about controlling us and thats it.......in the 80's when cjrysler was floundering the government loaned chrysler money and Lee Iacoca steered them to safety.......nobama jumped in and TOOK OVER! he fired the head of G.M......that would be like the head of G.P.C. firing you ...it doesnt happen like that....he has taken over the banking sector...the auto industry..and now he has his sights set on health care......instead of coming up with real solutions to real problems , he has spent the year blaming Bush for everything, spent time trying to woo the olympic committee....so dont believe that obama and the dems are concerned about us....he's only concerned about the power he can grab before he and the dems are voted out........