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Obama's Pick for Supreme Court...Sonia Sotomayer

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Of course the interesting aspect of all of these quotes is that none of these people claimed that their race or gender made them a better judge than someone else of different background, unlike this latest candidate.  They merely stated that it gave them different perspectives.  Huge difference. 

Your opinion is your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it. However, here's the statement in its full context. Maybe it will change your mind, maybe it will just reinforce your opinion. But, as I think you'll see, there's much more to the statement than the media and the pundits are trying to imply. (I'll copy and paste the three most pertinent paragraphs, but, like most things, you kind of have to read the whole thing to get the full effect.)

"Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O'Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O'Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.

Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown.

However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage."

"Or, more appropriate to the situation at hand, sometimes a study of the data is just a study of the data."

You made the allegation with the supposed liberal proof....now verify it. You can't.

You sure went a long way around just to prove that the NY Times is a study of data that can't be verified.

You can dance all you want...but there is no veracity in what you furnished. And, you have not disproven me!

You made the allegation with the supposed liberal proof....now verify it. You can't.

Ummmm... yes I can. The decisions and voting record of the court are all publicly available.

You sure went a long way around just to prove that the NY Times is a study of data that can't be verified.

So you admit that this was a study of the data? I guess I'll take this as an admission that you were wrong when you claimed it was a poll. And sorry, but it can be verified. Use the link above.

You can dance all you want...but there is no veracity in what you furnished. And, you have not disproven me!

(Again, see the link above.) I don't need to disprove you. You've made no claim of fact so there is nothing to refute.

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I had already seen this in full context so it didn't serve to reinforce or change my opinion.  But thanks for posting it. 

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