Muscatine

I suppose I'll clarify again, I meant "to cause you to kill them". Many methods could be used I suppose I just listed the first one that came to mind.

Here is a question for N0loh:  A hypothetical situation:  Transport yourself  back to, say, 1943 Germany.   If you had it in your power to shoot and kill Hitler, would you?   How about Dr. Mengela?   What if your parents were in one of the concentration camps, waiting for the gas chamber and ovens?

I would.  How about you?  Do you still believe it would be both technical and moral "murder"?   How about something called "justifiable homicide"?

No, I won't kill. I do not believe in justifiable homicide. I don't support capital punishment, either. I don't see it as having deterred the truly deranged, which most killers are, from committing their heinous acts. I could not live after taking a  life.

Now, if you're going to argue a right to life, you need to define what life is to you, which I'm guessing begins at conception and ends when someone else decides to take it. To me, life begins at birth. I believe a fetus, still attached to the mother via umbilical cord, is not life. It is a mass of tissue.

I believe in a right to life for everyone, from birth to death. Death by natural cause or accident. I do not believe in an afterlife. I am an Atheist.

If you're going to support a right to life, and you believe life begins at conception, you should hold true to your beliefs. I applaud anyone who has such strong conviction. I hope you can agree that I have the right to a different opinion.

Getting back to the murder of the doctor. How many abortion doctors and staff have been killed or maimed in the support of right to life? Isn't assassination and bombing methods of terrorism? If you're going to support people that kill doctors and bomb clinics, then you are supporting terror. Now, let's jump back to 2009. I see you walking down the street with your gun. I believe you're going to kill an abortion doctor. Do I have the right to kill you? No, I believe I do not. That is a matter of the state.

I will always believe in a woman's right to choose. I believe that birth control, via pill, condom, rhythm method or the best way, abstinence, needs to be taught at home. If everyone taught their girls to say "no" and mean it, and taught their boys to hold off, too, we wouldn't need abortions.

Quote: "If everyone taught their girls to say "no" and mean it, and taught their boys to hold off, too, we wouldn't need abortions." We don't "need" abortions now! Quote: "No, I won't kill. I do not believe in justifiable homicide." I take it, then, that you would not kill to save your child's life or a family member's life. That you have some strange code that would prevent you from protecting the innocent by eliminating the evil; and derived from who knows what, since you claim to be an atheist. If you are a true atheist, what does it matter whether you or anyone else kills or commits murder? There really is no ultimate consequence for such acts in your world, right? Just short term consequences that obivously are obliterated at death. When it all becomes meaningless anyway. And being an atheist it makes it much easier to create your own rules of who/what is a living person and who isn't. Sooooo, I find it hard to understand your world.